13 Oct 2016: Mystical Blue Ice from sky villagers awestruck

A huge Blue coloured ice block weighing about 8 to 10 Kg fell in a house in ‘Pakdaha’, under Sashan Police Station, Distt. ’24 Pargana’ (West Bengal), on 13th Oct 2016 (Thurs Day) at around 0730 Hrs. Indian Standard Time.

After fall, the ice piece broke into pieces and started melting. A big crowd gathered to watch the incident and many people took photographs from their mobiles. The ice block melt after some time. Many people collected ice sample and the liquid from the molten ice.

Suspecting the source from an aircraft, the officials from Geological Survey of India, collected the ice/ liquid samples for the purpose of getting them tested.
In this context, news items have appeared in many newspapers, including Bangla News Papers “Dainik Bhaskar” dt 14-10-2016 [http://www.anandabazar.com/…/mystical-blue-ice-from-sky-vil…] and in English News Paper “The Tribune“dt 14-10-2016 (Refhttp://www.tribuneindia.com/…/it-rains-poop-on-…/309918.html)

The site of incident (Coordinates 22°40’55″N, 088°34’12″E) is located just 10 Kms East of Netaji Subhash Chandra International Airport, Kolkata.

The Colour and other evidences confirm the source of ice from the leaking toilet lines of a commercial aircraft.

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4 Apr 2016: A cool surprise for heatwave-hit MP: 30 kg of ice falls from the sky

An incident of District Harda (M.P.), India on 04th April 2016.

Link: http://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/a-cool-surprise-for-heatwave-hit-mp-blue-ice-falls-from-the-skies/story-W0Y6kd5NUliNm9vp1F6xZJ.html

A cool surprise for heatwave-hit MP: 30 kg of ice falls from the sky

Neeraj Santoshi, Hindustan Times, Bhopal/Harda| Updated: Apr 07, 2016 11:34 IST

The chunk, believed to be a megacryometeor (ice-stone) or blue ice, came crashing down in a field on Monday, creating a three-foot-deep crater upon impact. (HT Photo)

Reeling under an early heat wave, people in Harda district of Madhya Pradesh received a cool surprise — an ice chunk weighing about 30kg falling from the sky.

The chunk, believed to be a megacryometeor (ice-stone) or blue ice, came crashing down in a field on Monday, creating a three-foot-deep crater upon impact. This comes nearly three months after a similar incident in Sagar district in which a 60-year-old woman was injured.

The latest incident occurred at Nousar village in Timarini, 40km from Harda district headquarters. The field belonged to Raj Kumar Patil, whose younger brother Jitendra Patil was irrigating it at the time. On hearing the thundering sound, locals came running to the field to find the chunk had broken into three.

Jitendra said another chunk came crashing down in a field nearby. “I was very scared. Nearly 14 seconds after the first chunk of ice fell, another smaller chunk fell in a nearby field. We informed other villagers who came rushing,” he said.

Harda collector Srikant Banot said he will inspect the site and also rope in geologists and other experts. He said in all probability, it was blue ice from a plane flying overhead at a great height. He said he had sent the sub-divisional magistrate to the spot to submit a report.

According to a research paper, ‘Isotopic studies of megacryometeors in western India’ published in March 2013, ice-stones or megacryometeors form suddenly even during non-cloudy, clear sky when there is no thunderstorm activity.

“Although their formation is not clearly understood, they are considered to have an origin different from large hailstones. The research paper is based on four unusually large ice-stones weighing several kilograms which fell in western India (Rajasthan, Gujarat and Maharashtra ) during October–November 2010.

According to authors of the research paper, many causal mechanisms have been hypothesized for the formation and fall of megacryometeors that include aircraft icing, blue ice or waste water released from aircraft lavatories, leakage from aircraft water tanks, condensation trails of jet planes and extraterrestrial origin.

They also pointed out that, according to Martinez-Frias who has collected data on ice-stones falls across the world, “megacryometeor fall frequency has increased since 1950 and that 46 fall events have been recorded between 2001 and 2006 alone”.

07 Jan 2016: Ice Ball from sky maybe frozen plane poo

On 07th Jan 2016,  the Times of India published a case of fall of ice from sky in a village in Dist Sagar (M.P.) India, (Geographical Coordinates  23°14’03.39″N, 78°53’06.08″E) that had occurred on 17th Dec 2015, resulting into injury to an old woman. Possibly the ice was from the leakage of liquids from toilets of defective pipe lines of an aircraft. Perhaps this is the first case in India where some one suffered personal injury due ice from sky. Times of India News Report ft 07-01-2016 is attached.

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4 Jan 2017: 8-Kgs Ice block falls from sky in Dist. Chittorgarh (Rajasthan) India

  • Ice Block weighing 8 Kilo falls from sky in Village Rashmi, Balwas Distt Chittorgarh (Rajasthan)lock 

  • Near Rashmi Village, Balwas Dist. ChittorGarh, (Rajasthan) dt of incident 04-01-2017 (Wed day) around noon, Approximate Coordinates 25°04’01.57″N, 74°21’55.55″E. The News appeared in Hindi Newspaper Rajasthan Patrika, Chittorgarh (Rajasthan Edition) Edition Dt 05-01-2017, Link http://rajasthanpatrika.patrika.com/story/chittorgarh/piece-of-ice-fell-from-the-sky-in-chittorgarh-2437203.html

  • Ice block weighing about 8 Kgs fell from sky. Eye witness stated that he was working in his field located near the road to Mirch Khedi, he heard a loud noise. On investigation,he found that a block of ice had fallen in his neighbour Narayan Kumhar’s house. After the fall, the ice had broken into pieces. Then many villagers reached at the spot. It was a matter of surprise and the news became the talk of the town.

13 Nov 2016: Incident of Fall of Blue Ice near Bengaluru Airport

Incident of Fall of Blue Ice on 13 Nov 2016 near Bengaluru Airport:

As per the news report appearing in “Praaja Kannada TV”, lumps of Blue Ice fell from sky on 13 Nov 2016 in Surappalli Village near Chikballapur Taluk, District Bagepalli (Karnataka), India).

The YouTube Link in Kannada Language: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVzhqwfCoBM shows interviews of eye-witnesses (Villagers) handling ice lumps of blue colour and storing molten liquid (blue coloured) in bottles.

Geographical Coordinates of the incident site are 13°40’40.91″N, 77°54’25.57″E, and the place lies at a distance of 57 Kms on a bearing 022° Degrees (North north west) from Kempegowda Intl Airport (Bengaluru). This is a case of fall of ice from the toilets of an aircraft, which perhaps was coming to land at Bengaluru Airport from North. Such ice from aircraft gets formed when there is leakage of toilet fluid from the defective leaking sewage lines from the aircraft toilets. Large number of such cases of fall of ice from sky have been reported in India and in other countries.

17 Dec 2015 – Re: Fall of ice from Sky in Village Aamkhoh Dist. Sagar (M.P.) India

Link-1:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/defaultinterstitial_as.cms

Ice ball drops from sky: MPHRC takes cognisance

TNN | Jan 25, 2016, 05.53 PM IST
Victim Rajrani Gaud.Victim Rajrani Gaud.
BHOPAL: Taking cognisance of TOI report, Madhya Pradesh Human Rights Commission (MPHRC) issued a notice to state government seeking report on an unusual incident wherein a 60-year-old tribal woman was injured after a football-sized chunk of ice fell on her from the sky in Sagar district.
The Collector of Sagar has been asked to submit a report on the matter by human rights commission chairman and retired IPS officer V M Kanwar, said sources.
What was touted as a rare celestial occurrence in district’s Aamkhoh village on December 17 had grabbed attention of aviation scientists who believe culprit was a commercial plane which dropped a ball of frozen poo and urine from its toilet.
Experts say that was perhaps the first incident in India, where a person suffered injuries due to fall of ice from a passing plane and the victim was entitled to compensation for the injury.
Eyewitnesses claim the victim, Rajrani Gaud, is alive only because the 50 kg ice chunk crashed into the terrace edge of her house before hitting her.
While administrative officials in the state believe it’s a difficult case for investigation, Bimal Kumar Srivastava, Delhi-based independent aviation consultant, who has done extensive research on mysterious ice ball dropping from sky, has framed a line of investigation for Sagar incident and has shared with TOI.
“This is something which should be investigated and documented. What if ice ball fell on her head? A 400 kg ice ball dropped from sky in Jashpur, Chhattisgarh, before the Sagar incident. Imagine the situation if it had fallen on a residential area. Who would be held accountable,” asked Srivastava.
It could either be a ‘blue Ice’ – a term used in aviation context for frozen sewage material leaked mid-flight from aircraft’s toilet or a ‘megacryometeor’ – extremely large atmospheric ice conglomerations that fall under blue-sky atmospheric conditions.
If it was a ‘Blue Ice’, the incident will be termed as ‘aircraft accident and victim is entitled to compensation under Aircraft (Investigation of Accidents and Incidents) Rules, 2012, said Srivastava. Then district collector A K Singh did not get the matter investigated considering it as rumour.
“There is a strong possibility that ice block may have fallen from the toilet of some aircraft cruising on the flight route and injured the old woman,” said Srivastava, who has more than 45 years of aviation experience in field of air traffic control, aircraft accident investigation, airport planning, airport management and airport obstacle survey.

He said incident was located at geographical coordinates 23°14’03.39″N, 78°53’06.08″E, which lies just below air traffic services route (ATS) of A-791 (Karachi-Kolkata-Bangkok), where the aircraft at height could be seen flying regularly from East to West or West to East when the sky was clear. “An aircraft cruising Eastwards over that route would take about 8 Minutes to arrive over Aamkhoh after crossing Bhopal, and aircraft flying West-wards would take about 11 Minutes to arrive over Aamkhoh after crossing Jabalpur. So it would not be that difficult to identfy the aircraft which passed over dropping the iceball,” he said.

 

Link-2:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhopal/Tracing-aeroplane-which-dropped-frozen-poop-in-Madhya-Pradesh-is-possible/articleshow/50720258.cms

‘Tracing aeroplane which dropped frozen poop in Madhya Pradesh is possible’

TNN | Jan 25, 2016, 07.00 PM IST
The ice ball that fell in Sagar district - TOI PhotoThe ice ball that fell in Sagar district – TOI Photo

BHOPAL: Madhya Pradesh Human Rights Commission (MPHRC) may be curious over identifying source of large ball of ice that fell from sky on an elderly woman in Sagar district, but there are over 60 such incidents that were reported across India that were never investigated.

While there are regulatory agencies like directorate general of civil aviation (DGCA) in place to investigate such incidents, to the layman that is jumbo hailstones.

Delhi based aviation consultant B K Srivastava who had been monitoring these incidents for last 10 years firmly believes that a proper investigation into this drop with not only help the victim get a compensation but will also detect breach in aircraft’s laboratory system.

Here is line of investigations recommended by B K Srivastava on “Ice ball drop from sky”

Investigators may collect detailed information from eye-witnesses regarding physical characteristics of the ice block including its shape, size, weight, appearance, textures etc. and most important aspect is its colour, & Odour.

Attempts should be made to procure good quality photographs of the ice and the place of incident.

If colour of ice block was blue, bluish or Green and/ or if the ice was smelling of Phenyl or of sort of sanitizing liquid, it could definitely be from an aircraft. Yellowish or Dirty colour can also give indication to some extent.

Some traces of earth from of place of incident may also be tested to look for the presence of sanitizer, though it may not be of much significance, after passage of so much of time.

If the ice was from an aeroplane, in all probability, the particular aeroplane might have been flying on an International Air-Route or ATS Route (Air Traffic Services) known as A-791. On this route international flights on Karachi/ Kolkata or Karachi/ Bangkok are frequently operating. This route is located in East/ West/East Direction.

ATS Routes are similar to Highways for ground vehicles with a particular defined path connecting one airport with other. It is prudent for every civil aircraft to follow only authorised air-routes, and that they cannot deviate from their path.

The width of ATS Routes is 20 Kms. That means all the flights will be confined to remain within a range of 20 Kms on this route. All Scheduled and Non-Scheduled airlines overflying on any particular air route normally maintain their altitudes between 10 to 15 Kms (About 30,000ft to 45,000ft).

Over all such Air-routes, mandatory reporting points have been established. These reporting points could be in the form of Radio Navigational Aids e.g. VOR (VHF Omni Directional Range), NDB (Non-Directional Beacon) or they may be in terms of simple assumed points based on Geographical Coordinates which are known as Dead Reckoning or DR Points.

All aircraft while passing over those reporting points are required to communicate with the relevant Air Traffic Control Centre (ATS Centre) and transmit to them their position Report & flight details such as aircraft Call sign, Place of Departure & Destination, Time of crossing the reporting point, Flight Level, expected time of arrival over the next reporting point etc.

Aamkhoh, the place is located at Geographical Coordinates 23°14’03.39″”N, 78°53’06.08″”E. Part of ATS Routes A-791 at this location falls under the jurisdiction of Nagpur/ Mumbai ATC, and there are two reporting points on ATS Route A-791 viz. Bhopal & Jabalpur. Aamkhoh is located exactly below that route at a distance of 160 Kms East of Bhopal and 121 Kms West of Jabalpur. A rough sketch on Google Earth shown below will substantiate the assumptions.

Aircraft cruising Eastwards over that route would take about 8 Minutes to arrive over Aamkhoh after crossing Bhopal, and aircraft flying West-wards would take about 11 Minutes to arrive over Aamkhoh after crossing Jabalpur.

Air Traffic Control Centre Nagpur/ Mumbai is functioning under Airports Authority of India and it maintains a record of all aircraft movements (Of Course till a limited period).

Thus records of all aircraft flights which had operated on A-791 on the day of incident can be traced by DGCA, which is the regulatory authority for Civil Aircraft in India.

Once this job is done, the next part would be that DGCA, India may be writing to its counterparts (DGCAs) of those countries to which the airlines belong to, giving Registration & Type of aircraft that had flown over the place of incident and seeking information whether any leakage or seepage was noticed or repaired in respect of those aircraft from Dec 17th 2015 till date. If so the details?

In case of receipt of any positive report from any of the countries, it could be taken as a confirmed case of Ice fall from an aircraft, wherein the aircraft involved in the incident could be identified.

 

26 Feb 2015: Incident of Ice Fall from sky weighing 400 Kgs in Jashpur India

Video Coverage Bansal TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2IrSdwJN0

Incident of Fall of Huge Ice Blocks weighing 100 to 400 Kgs in Jashpur Chhattisgarh, India) on 26th Feb 2015.
Links: Reports from Hindi News Papers:Hindi News Papers “Dainik Bhaskar” and “Nai Dunia” dt 28th Feb 2015
http://www.bhaskar.com/news/c-16-853196-NOR.html
http://naidunia.jagran.com/…/jashpur-aasman-se-giri-barf-ki…
“Brief of News in English: There was a panic in village Kharsota (Jashpur), Chhattisgarh in India on 26th Feb 2015 (Thursady), when huge blocks of ice started falling. Three pieces of Ice block weighing 100 to 400 Kilograms fell at around five in the evening in clear weather. When villagers reached at the site, they found ice pieces scattered there. The matter is under investigation.”
Opinion: Possibility of Fall from Aircraft:
Site (22°58’53.64″N, 84°07’01.62″E) lies below ATS Route A-791, (which connects Karachi to Kolkata), below ATS Reporting point ARIVO. Blocks of ice might have fallen due to leakage from the Aircraft Toilet (Due to defective toilet lines) of a commercial aircraft flying on Karachi to Kolkata and beyond..

'Incident of Fall of Huge Ice Blocks weighing 100 to 400 Kgs in Jashpur Chhattisgarh, India) on 26th Feb 2015. Links: Reports from Hindi News Papers:Hindi News Papers "Dainik Bhaskar" and "Nai Dunia" dt 28th Feb 2015 http://www.bhaskar.com/news/c-16-853196-NOR.html http://naidunia.jagran.com/chhattisgarh/jashpur-aasman-se-giri-barf-ki-silliya-316532  "Brief of News in English: There was a panic in village Kharsota (Jashpur), Chhattisgarh in India on 26th Feb 2015 (Thursady), when huge blocks of ice started falling. Three pieces of Ice block weighing 100 to 400 Kilograms fell at around five in the evening in clear weather. When villagers reached at the site, they found ice pieces scattered there. The matter is under investigation."  Opinion: Possibility of Fall from Aircraft: Site (22°58'53.64"N, 84°07'01.62"E) lies below ATS Route A-791, (which connects Karachi to Kolkata), below ATS Reporting point ARIVO. Blocks of ice might have fallen due to leakage from the Aircraft Toilet (Due to defective toilet lines) of a commercial aircraft flying on Karachi to Kolkata and beyond..'